Appendices

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Appendix A – data from selected discussion rooms (space limitations prevent us from including the data from all the rooms. These examples are provided so the reader can see the discourse representative of the language found in the rooms and can see the categorization of the language)

National Heroes Room

TOTAL POSTS = 11 Mexican (M) = 7 (63.64%) Turkish (T) = 4 (36.36%)

Number of posts per category: A=9, B=1, C=1,

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1 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: National Heroes in Mexico

The main heroes in Mexico are:
1. Hidalgo (Miguel Hidalgo y Costilla), a catholic priest who led the movement that made mexico independent from Spain in 1810, independence was achieved in 1821.
2. Juarez (Benito Juarez), who was a president in the mid 1800's and nationalized all the properties of the church.
3. Zapata (Emiliano Zapata). He led the revolutionary war in the south of Mexico in 1910 agains Porfirio Díaz, who had been in power for 30 years.



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2 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: Heroes

XxxxxX is right those are our main national heroes, but we can add some more:
José María Morelos y Pavón, he is an Independence hero, he fought with Hidalgo against Spain in 1810, this war ended in 1821.
And we can't forget Josefa Ortiz de Dominguez, her participation in the Indpendence movement was really important, She sent secret messages, the history says that this brave woman recieved messages form Mexico city, and hid them inside her hair (remember that in those days women used to comb their hair in a very complicated style, so Josefa then delivered the secret message to Hidalgo, that action helped the communication between people from south and centre of the territory.





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3 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (T)

Subject: Re: Heroes

Hello, I am writing from Turkey. My country, Turkey is really full of heroes maybe beacuse we gave great importance to our history. The most famous and the greatest hero is Atatürk in Turkish history. Maybe you have heard about him. Thanks to him and some other ones Our country gained its independence. He did a lot in Turkish Independence War for us. We also have heroines that again took part in that war helping soldiers and so on.



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4 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: National Heroes in Mexico...

Hi! In Mexico we have a large history of our country and year by year many heroes have risen, many of them fought to protect our territories but one who I really admired is Benito Juárez. He was a decent and honest man, he changed many things in the laws to suppor poor people, his lemma was in simple words: If you respect your neighboor, you will enjoy of full peace! and that´s true.


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5 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: Re: Heroes

Wowww sounds interesting, I love history, now I realized how few things I know about history of other countries, tell us more about your country's history. Thank you for sharing with us your customs
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6 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (T)

Subject: Re: Heroes

Ottoman Empire is our antecedent. In the first World War we were invaded by other nations but in 1923 we gained independence again under the name of Turkish Republic. Most of hereos are the products of these times. Also some of them had lived in Ottoman Empire.


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7 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (T)

Subject: Ataturk; the hero in Turkey

as my friend Xxxxx mentioned before Ataturk was the leader in our Independence War. however; he was not a soldier only. after gaining our independence he worked hard to modernize Tukey. so he is our national hero and even today we owe a lot to him for living in a modern society.



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8 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: Re: National Heroes in Mexico

I'm reading you again, and unfortunately these heroes have no meaning for our students now. Maybe in Primary, when they study some of the Mexican history they recognize them, but not later. Not even our National anthem or our flag. Many years ago, I don't remember how many, "Civismo" (civics) was let out of the primary and secondary curricula, and all its values were forgotten or let aside because it was comfortable. Now, all around the world the word "values" has a value again, and everybody is trying to recover them. I hope it won't be too late.





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9 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (T)

Subject: our hero Atatürk...
hi. as my friends Xxxxx and Xxxxx said Atatürk is our national hero and if he had not been, there might not have been a place called Turkey. Thanks to him we have our own country and independence. additionally in Turkey all the soldiers that have fight for the country are seen as heroes we also have heroines that helped to the soldiers during the war but their names are not known.



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10 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: the last aztec emperor

Cuauhtemoc is also considered a national heroe, he was the last emperor of Tenochtitlan in fact the 11th one.
He fought with the Spaniards for 75 days, at the end to save his family and his people he surrendered to the Spaniards and he was caught by Cortés; he was tortured with boiling oil, his feet were burned to make him say where the Aztec’s treasure was; but he denied to say it, he was hung on February 1525 so I think he was very important in our history because he didn’t accept that Cortés was a god as Moctezuma did so he tried to do everything to save his people; and died with dignity

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11 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: Re: the last aztec emperor

I really wish to have one heroe like Cuahutemoc. I hope that among all these leaders that we have, there could be, one man, or a group o men, because loneliness is nos effective on these days. A group of men, who had a leader, that could help our country to get a place, a recognized place in the world. I know that this is almost impossible, but I didn't say that it had to be perfect, but yes, he has to be in love with Mexico, yes, he has to be intelligent and listen to the other ones. I'm sorry but that is what I think Mexic needs, a HEROE. a NEW ONE.

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Dress Codes and Taboos Room

TOTAL POSTS = 35 Mexican (M) = 30 (85.7%) Turkish (T) = 5 (14.3%)

Number of posts per category: A=28, B=4, C=21

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1 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: TABOOS IN DRESS...

WELL, I THINK THAT MEXICO HAS OPENED IT`S EYES WIDE SINCE I WAS A TEEN. I REMEMBER MY RELATIVES FROM A RANCH NEAR TEHUACAN CAME TO VISIT US ONCE AND WERE SCANDALIZED BECAUSE I WAS WEARING BERMUDA SHORTS, CAN YOU BELIEVE IT!? YES, TO THEM I LOOKED PROVOCATIVE AND INDECENT. BUT NOW, THEY HAVE CHANGED AND ACCEPT DIFFERENT STYLES OF DRESS IN THEIR PUEBLO.



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2 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: Re: TABOOS IN DRESS...

Here at the American Scho, the same, anything, and I can tell you, anything goes.
I'm old, I love uniforms, I think they help with many things, like discipline, order, and savings, because competition in this case is terrible. I understand all points of view, but if you look to some of us, you will see, that you have clothing for each situation, and sometimes here at the school, we teachers comment:"and parents don't want their girls to be raped?".


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3 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: Uniforms!!!

Totally love them, but it's not that I'm old,I'm just a "little" bit lazy when it comes to choosing my clothes in the morning!!! and I don't think there is any taboo as how women can dress, but women should be happy and just BEHAVE!!! I mean, the way some girls dress... hello!!


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4 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: TABOOS IN DRESS...

Hi! I´m sure that girls look nice with those miniskirts, hip jeans, and mini t'shirts, but I feel angry when I see somebody telling them offensive expression in the street, and I wonder why do they wear this kind of clothes, I do not have taboos, but everybody should be awareness of the sytle, also when you are little fat, or short and according to the places you visit.



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5 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: Taboos in Dress

I've read all your comments guys, and you need to come to my classroom, It doesn't look like a college classroom, it looks like a Versage fashion collection at Millan. I call that classroom the Barbies' and Kents' Class... the girls look like a Barbie dolls with long blue, green and purple hair, high heels in pink. Kents they are handsome, very well dressed and good looking. ALL OF THEM really are very nice guys. Some of the Ibero teachers already know about this very special group of students. I enjoy being there because with them I be aware of fashion and know what is inn at the moment.



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6 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: Re: Taboos in Dress

... and you need to come to my classroom. it doesn´t look like a college classroom

Well, I work in a primary school and you should see some girls (and boys), and I´m talking about some girls of 6!!! They wear kind of heels and VERY fancy and "grown up" clothing HOOPS!


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7 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: Dress Code and Taboos

Mexico needs to be seen as 'two Mexicos'. The urban Mexican women wear clothes worn in every western country including jeans and unisex clothing. The rural Mexican women are more conservative and some even wear their traditional clothing, which gives Mexico a very interesting touch. If you go to Cuetzalan, a beautiful place near Puebla, on a Sunday morning, you will be delighted to see the people - men, women, and children - wearing their traditional clothes for especial occasions. If you go to the towns in the Sierra, women do not wear men clothes, this is taboo for them. They wear their traditional black skirts, their embroided blouses and their 'rebozos'. I love the way they look, so I hope this does not change.


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8 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (T)

Subject: Re: TABOOS IN DRESS...

In Turkey especially in rural areas the situation is the same. Ýt is still not good to wear short skirts or shorts but in cities people wear what they want. Nobody cares about clothes unless it is extreme. Most people think that Turkey is very conservative in clothes or onter things maybe because of our religion, Islam. but people are free and there are not so much taboos about clothes here.


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9 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: Re: Dress Code and Taboos

I hope this doesn´t change.

I hope so, there are beautiful outfits! You know, I love to wear some of this clothes, I like to wear a typical blouse with jeans or having a "rebozo", or a suit, whatever and I know there are people who feel embarressed of wearing this stuff :(

Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: drees code
I think here in Puebla people are too piki and according to the way you look is the way people treat you specially in high societies that's why they do care about their clothes brands, where you buy your clothes, etc.
In little towns the way of dressing can vary it also varies in other cities for example in Vercaruz which is a very hot city women dress very provocative clothes but men don't say anything on the streets and here in Puebla no matter if you are only wearing a skirt men tend to say things.....


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10 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: Are dresses out?

Yeah, it is veeery comfortable to wear pants,they are so practical, you don`t have to worry about how you sit, you can sit anywhere...but... don`t you girls feel different, special,cuter, more femenine when you wear a nice, dress,and high heels?

For sometime the dress policy at my ex-job was:
you could wear a dress, but with pantyhose even when wearing sandals. I can`t stand pantyhose so I stopped wearing dresses. After 2 years ( I quit that job) I bought my self two dresses and ... I enjoyed it.

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11 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: Re: Taboos in Dress

I like those girls....!!!! My daughter is one of those kind of girls, when she was a 5, she loved to go to school wearing "Cinderellas" (plastic high heels)
Well we are living in a modern world

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12 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: about shorts and bermudas....

Chiapas is a very hot place so everybody (not only young people) wear shorts and t-shirts, even teachers at schools! and it`s O.K., but one taboo that we have is that in a funeral,people must wear black or black and white clothes, and people is not allow to get into the chuch wearing shorts.


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13 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: Re: Are dresses out?

I hope not!, I love dresses and here most of middle-age women prefer them because they are fresher than pants.

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14 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (T)

Subject: dressing

generally in Turkey there is not strict dressing taboos but there are some exeptions too. especilly in my region, which is situated in the west part of Turkey, people do not care much about what you wear. especillay in my city, Tekirdag which situates in Marmara Sea coast, you can wear whatever you want. people do not look at you. this is may be because of the fact that it is a caost city and a lot of tourist come there for holiday. but in the east part this is not the case I think. they are a little more conservative especially in realted to the girls' clothes. but if you are a foreigner from the other parts of Turkey of abroad, nobody say anything about your clothes and it is throught that it is your culture and you can do the things that your culture permits.this is especillay true for ruarl areas.



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15 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (T)

Subject: Re: dressing

I want to add one more thing. we are not the people that most of the people think as primitive and too conservative people. we do not wear black suits as women wear in Iran. in fact, people in Turkey are free what to wear exept extreme things. we try to obey the innovations that great Atatürk has done related to clothing.


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16 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: Re: dressing

Xxxxx, what about piercing your nose, eyebrows, bellybuttons, etc? Are people allowed to do it?

Here in Mexico, many girls are piercing their belly-buttons, they look really cute -in my opinion

Many young men and women also pierce their noses - I don`t like it, though

Very few pierce their tongues and eyebrows...- disgusting, in my opinion...

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17 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (T)

Subject: Re: Are dresses out?

hi Xxxxx. Actually when I wear skirts or high- heeled shoes, I also feel more beatiful and more feminine. But I think, in our daily life, rather than beauty, we give importance to our comfort rather than beauty. Thus, I generally prefer wearing pants in my daily life.

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18 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (T)

Subject: Re: dressing

Hi Sandra,
As in Mexico, piercing is popular in Turkey, too. Especially in big cities such as Istanbul, Izmir… Although by some people it is thought as a strange fashion, nobody says anything the ones who use piercing. It is allowed. You can see lots of girls and boys in the streets or at the universities with piercing. Personally speaking, I like piercing very much and I find it very cute. For example, I have totally seven earrings on my ears and I also think to pierce my nose soon:) But like you, I find piercing tongues disgusting. How can they eat.??? But as I said, people are allowed to do it, nobody tries to prevent you.


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19 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: Re: TABOOS IN DRESS...
Xxxxx what you comment about girls being raped due to the clothes they wear, I completelly agree with you. Some times I ask myself how is it that mother allow their girls to go out wearing a mini-mini skirt or when it comes to pants, they were them so tight that they leave nothing to the imagination.

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20 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: Re: Are dresses out?
< When I wear skirts or hihg-heels shoes I also feel more beautiful and feminine...

I think must women like to feel once in a while like that, and certainly wearing pants and feeling comfortable is important in our daily life. There are such beautiful outfits, accesories, scarfs, purses and stuff that help us looking "nice" without sacrifying comfort that we must try, don´t you think so?

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21 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: What about death? is it a taboo?

Hey!, what happen with death?, even when it depends on the families, here is a big taboo to talk about it ( specially with elder people), because they think that you are wanting them to died.
I remember once anecdote; my father in law, lives with us, and once my husband asked him: "Where do you want to be vigil over ( is it correc in English?)?" and my father in law, very upset, answered him:" don`t worry, I`m 82 years old, I`m gonna died soon, and I`m not going to continue disturbing you"
Most people (even young people), think on this way here in Chiapas, is the same in other places?


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22 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: Re: dressing

Hi Xxxxx:
I think that in almost all the places, people don`t say anything about how tourist wear, but how do people in your country wear everyday?, do you have specific outfits for special occasions? do people in rural places wear "differently" than people in urban?

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23 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: Re: dressing

Xxxxx: we try to obey the innovations that great Atatürk has done related to clothing.
Isabel: What are these innovations?, Who is "great Atatûrk"? could you tell me more please?


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24 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: taboos in sex

Even when younger generations seems to be more "open mind" with sex, I consider that in many places of Mexico, sex is still a taboo. Here in Chiapas, is not usual that girls talk about sex with their mothers, or even wives don`t speak about it or about sexual problems with their husbands, and if they have doubts, they prefer to talk with a friend.
This is something funny, because I feel that many expressions in Chiapas have a strong sexual connotation and many women used them.
On the other hand, men always talk about sex!!!(or at least about their successful sexual experiences!)
Disgusting, isn`t it?



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25 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: Re: dressing

Talking about piercing, I have a Korean student who told me that in Korea, only girls are allowed to pierce their earlobes, but first they have to get permission from their parents, o course!, but from their neigborhood associations or something like that, and from the Police Department. Also he told me that if you happen to be gay and admit it, you will get 10 years in jail, and 20 if you operate yourself to become either of the other.

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26 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: Re: TABOOS IN DRESS...

What you mention comes to education and self respect. The working girls that dress with this tiny tops and low pants, are exposing themselves, they have to go to work by public bus services. I remember when the first of my daughters that arrived here to dtudy in Puebla, at the Ibero, she stopped using skirts. But in this moment, you really don't know. Many years ago when the mini skirts began, men used to say: "I want to see when the edge of the hem reaches to the waist"; today is worst, what is going to happen if the low waist pants go lower and the tops higher, who's to blame.

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27 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: Re: Dress Code and Taboos

I agree with you, the same happens in Tuxtla Gutiérres, and in some places in Aguascalients, where embroidery is done like in spiderwebs, or in Oaxaca. We should have workshops to keep these handicrafts as an art, because I think that it is, but ...
this but is our problem, this handicrafts do not pay to live, and when you are going to pay for them, you think they are too expensive. Last Thursday I had something in the Teatro Principal, and coming out from there on he following street there is a store, beautiful things, but very expensive, and I'm sure they didn't pay, even half of it, to the person who made them.

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28 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: Re: Are dresses out?

I have passed through all the experiences you have mentioned, even Xxxxx's. Yes we have to be comfortable, but there is an age in which you are delighted to show everything possible. That you love to be admired. That you have to be comfortable, yes, that is a very important part, but there are so many comfortable beautiful clothes today, that you can be both, b and c at the same time. And there is something that I remember sine I was very young, honestly. we dress for ourselves. If you feel "WELL" it doesn't matter who says the opposite.

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29 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: Re: taboos in sex

I knew a woman from India, that when we talked in front of her, the first time, about sex, she told us that it had been a strong experience, not even with her mother she had spoken about this. What I feel we have lost is the sense of respect. I have four daughters, I have told them all I know to help them in their sexual life, but I insist: sex is an act of two, no more.
But what comes to sexual education, it's very important. Boys and girls, girls and boys, should know about sex and its consequences.

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30 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: Re: taboos in sex

Xxxxx says:sex is an act of two, no more.

I totally agree with this and I also insist that people should have more communication with their children or with their partners in that way they will avoid illnesses, and also being frustrated because they are not sexually happy so communication is the key for everything.

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31 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: Re: taboos in sex

Hi there, this is an interesting topic, and I will like to share my point of view (as a mom and as a teacher) One thing is to talk about sexuality and other is to talk about "having sexual relations", certainly they are related yes, but our sexuality starts when we are born. It starts with our largest sexual organ: our skin!!! And it has to do with the way we are loved, touched and cared by our parents and then continue with our intimal relation with ourselves (since we are babies) and I think that according to all this background we can built our "sexual live" (including intercourse of course!!!)


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32 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: Re: Taboos in Dress

ALL little girls love to get dressed up in fancy clothes and high heels but I don't think mothers should allow them to wear high heels to school!!!! Let's let them have a childhood!!

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Yes, Xxxxx, I agree with you, there are many beautiful crafts here in Mexico which are true works of art, but unfortunately they are sometimes only appreciated by foreigners who value the time and skill that goes into their creation.

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34 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

There sure are...and I totally agree with you guys, I would`t wear dresses every day, you know, carrying children up & down, chasing them, picking them up when they fall and their feet and mouth full of chocolate ruinning your clothes!

Pants with little kids are out of the question!

...but I like them..

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35 Author: Xxxxx Xxxxx (M)

Subject: Re: taboos in sex

I agree with all of you a 100% percent, but let`s face it , we must admit that many mothers from past generations never mentioned the topic. Sex used to be dirty, bad, taboo. But they are not to blame. The way they handled it was a consequence of their parent`s education as well.

I am glad that this topic has been researched and people can read and talk to doctors about sex. I think more and more couples are much more opened to talk about it. As Xxxxx said communication is the key .

How many women have lived frustrated all their lives and maybe if they had had the chance to read, to talk with someone reliable, with experience...their lives would have changed...?

Besides we were born like that and we have to see it natural, as it is, as something wonderful...but we shouldn’t missunderstand it. It is not a game, we must be responsible and I agree, that must be taught.


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Appendix B – Final Reports of selected rooms

Introductions Room Report

The Introductions room generated the most posts (72 in total). It was the first room on the list of 17 rooms and the logical place for participants to start talking.

We had participants from several countries. The majority of the participants were from Turkey with 29, next from Mexico with 18, then three from The United States, two from Canada, and one each from China and Portugal.

As mentioned above, there were 72 posts in this room. Most of these posts had to do with personal information about the participants. They usually focused on age, studies, and reasons and interests for participating in the course. The posts also expressed excitement about being able to share their culture as well as learn about new cultures. Some of the participants from Turkey sent beautiful pictures of their country in attachments to their posts. Those particularly helped us to "see" the country and get an idea of what it’s like.

The first participants from another country were two from the US, then one from Nova Scotia, Canada. This is probably because they were personal friends of mine! About two weeks after the beginning of the course, the Turkish participants started to send posts.

Conclusion

The posts in this room were all full of optimism and the spirit of sharing. And we did have some time to talk and share. All of the participants were willing and open minded about topics.


Children Room Report

This Children Room generated 45 posts in total. There were participants from Turkey, Mexico, The United States, Canada and China. Everyone shared their very personal opinion about the topic, which by the way was very interesting. Cultures can be different in many aspects but sometimes as parents or adults as well, no matter where we come from we do the same things in relation to children. From all the comments in the room, I came up with 5 different sections according to the subject.

Children segregation

Children who don’t belong to a certain social-economic class, who may look different because of skin color or race or don’t practice the same religion can be segregated by peers or even by adults (i.e. teachers). Many times children are not allowed to go to certain places like elegant weddings for instance. But in rural communities you can see children running all over.

The different way to express love

For love’s sake parents can do all sorts of things. Overprotected children do not always become happy adults. Often parents don’t allow children self-independence, and “children” continue living with their parents even after they’re married. Parents can’t take control of their children in every aspect. Kids need and have to make their own decisions.

How do we raise children

In many ways parents raise children just the way they were raised, tend not to be very strict and they became overprotective. Patterns are still very strong and sometimes those patterns have to do with religion. But younger generations are more flexible in general. Parents must remember this: children should be disciplined with love. People who were hit by their parents certainly will hit his/her children. On the other hand, depending on the culture, mother can be the head of the family but in some others, father is the soul head and absolute authority (rural communities). It would be better if both husband and wife shared authority in a family and undertake responsibility and they equally depend on each other.

Number of children in a family

Although only child seemed to be very spoiled (which is not always right) families are becoming smaller almost all over the world. In Mexico three children is almost the average. But generally speaking coming from or having big families is very acceptable. And it depends on the place people live.

Discipline and Education

Children must know how to behave either in public or in private and it is mother’s and father’s job to take the time-no matter how hectic they are- to teach them and to discipline them. It is not school’s responsibility. Parents must teach right from wrong but MUST of all they have to start being an example of it. Nowadays children have a lot of freedom, they’re spoiled. Limits are very important. They help children adapt to society. Parents shouldn’t forget to teach respect, especially towards older people.

Conclusion

Every comment was very important and gave us a wide point of view from each culture. Certainly parenthood is not an easy job and educating children in order to become respectful and responsible adults is a hard task and no matter our culture. Parents must be aware of some basic rules to make things easier. Let’s teach children: being an example for them promoting self-independence making them conscious of discipline and after teaching this, love them very much!


Room Report
Life Stages and Rituals
What can be thought about life stages & rituals??? Which stages people consider more important?? What is done when a person changes from one stage to another??…. We will discuss about all these during this report.

People from different nationalities and different states in Mexico were giving their opinions on what is done in their place of living and some things do not vary that much in Mexico, the USA and Turkey.

Let’s begin talking about the first stage which is when a baby is born, what is done before and after you have a baby??

Nowadays, people hold baby showers to get some presents for their babies and to give some advices to the new mother, I guess this tradition comes from the USA and it is organized in many countries; however, Jews think is bad luck to have this kind of celebration; they consider having a get- together when the mother and the child are both out of danger . After the baby is born what is very typical to give as a present is a cigar if it was a baby boy or chocolates if it was a baby girl, and people normally give something as a present to the new born.

Then talking about an important stage is when children are not longer kids but they become teenagers (little adults)……and we will focus on the celebration that Mexicans have and it is called the XV birthday party.

It is very interesting if we go back and we analyze when this celebration began, it was first celebrated in the early 19th century and it began because young women were introduced to the society and people thought this was the perfect age to get married; nowadays it is celebrated to show everyone that the quinceañera is not a child anymore.

This celebration can vary from place to place but what people normally do is first at all having a mass to thank God you have the opportunity to become and adolescent, then all the guests have a banquette in the quinceañera’s house or somewhere else. Before the party begins, everybody has a toast for the quinceañera drinking wine or sidra (apple beverage), this girl dances a Waltz with the chambelanes (young men) and then with the whole family (only men) . What the quinceañera wears is a long dress as the ones used in the 19th century and she normally changes her flat shoes for high heels representing that she won’t use them anymore. I guess this is an important stage because a lot of people think this is an age when all little women have a lot of illusions.

There are many important stages through life and another that can follow the one above, is when people are not single anymore that means when they tie the knot and this can be celebrated in different ways such as in the religious ceremony or the civil ceremony. Nowadays people are afraid of getting married, or maybe they do not want to have responsibilities who knows what the reality is….I think this celebration does vary from place to place, religion to religion, of course there are certain aspects that characterizes a wedding.

Let’s focus on what is done in different religions!!!
The purposes of marriage in the Bible are for companionship and procreation. In the past, they were usually arranged by parents, but the bride's consent was asked. Jewish weddings can occur any day of the week except the Sabbath, Jewish festivals, the three weeks between the 17th of Tammuz and the 9th of Av, and the "sefirah" period Passover & Shavuot (Lag Ba-Omer and other exceptions). It is customary for the bride to wear white and a headdress & veil. Jews from oriental countries wear elaborate costumes richly embroidered. The groom may wear a "kitel" (a white garment) along with a tallit.

Before the ceremony, the groom, in the presence of witnesses, undertakes an act of "kinyan" (the obligations of the Ketubah). This is done by taking a handkerchief or some other object by the Rabbi, lifting it and returning it. The groom and witnesses then sign the Ketubah.

The bride is led in by the Mothers usually to the accompaniment of a blessing of welcome chanted by the Rabbi. Sometimes the bride is led in 7 circles around the groom to ward off evil spirits.

The bride stands to the right of the groom and the Rabbi recites the marriage blessings over a goblet of wine. Both the bride & groom then drink from the glass. The groom places the wedding ring on the forefinger of the bride's right hand and recites the marriage formula. The "ketubah" (marriage contract) is then read and the 7 marriage benedictions are recited. In most ceremonies, the groom then crushes the glass under his right foot and the Rabbi invokes the "priestly blessings". The couple is then escorted away.

In contrast, Muslim wedding traditions maintain some similarities based on faith. However, there are also colorful, cultural variations from place to place. The various wedding traditions reflect the diversity of the Muslim world and we will focus on Turkey. Weddings vary with social standing, with the social distance between the parties, and with area.

A boy is normally married between the ages of sixteen and twenty-two or so, though there are always exceptions, parents are the ones who arrange everything and the ones who pay for everything is the groom’s family. Girls are normally married at about fourteen to eighteen years old.

The wedding begins four days or more before consummation, with the raising of a flag over the groom's house, the offering of hospitality in a large guest room - often borrowed from kin or neighbors - and the arrival of a drummer and piper. During the day, the men wrestle, dance, dress up as bandits, play soldiers, or watch professional male entertainers. In the evening the festivities continue in the guest room, with songs, stories, practical jokes and charades. On the girl's side, far less public ceremony has taken place. A close circle of women kin and neighbors meet to dance for a few nights before the wedding. On the day before, the bride's right hand is ceremonially dyed with henna.

When the party arrives to fetch the bride, the men and women are entertained separately. Dancing, foolery, coffee and cigarettes abound. The visitors are said to be `under the orders' of their hosts, a dozen or so men dance in a circle.

Meanwhile, the women guests are entertained by the girl's close womenfolk. Four of the visiting yenge, and one woman of the girl's side, also called yenge, take the bride into an inner room or cave where, solemnly lamenting and weeping, they dress her for her new husband. From this moment until she is alone with him, she is not allowed to speak, but weeps constantly. When she is ready, they leave her alone and rejoin the company. Finally a large meal is served, separately to the men and the women, and the groom's party prepare to depart in procession, as they came, headed by pipe and drum. The yengeler bring up the rear, with the bride in their midst. With much weeping and kissing of hands, she takes her and they leave, riding if possible a white horse - (in fact, the means of transport can include a donkey, a horse drawn cart, a lorry, a taxi, and the bride's own two legs) - she sets off, alone among the people of her new environment…….. these are some of the most important things that are done in this celebration. I won’t extend more because this can be a topic that can be discussed more extensively.

What can be another significant stage for a person???? Well according to the different points of view of the participants, they mentioned that retirement can be an excellent stage if you have it insured. Well, what about if you live day by day?? Well this is something people have to begin worrying about and also begin saving money, in that way if they have the opportunity to retire they will have at least some money saved. Finally talking about the retirements benefits; I think that not a lot of people will enjoy them but as Nancy mentioned “there is not guarantee that we will be so lucky to live the retirement age”.

To finish with let’s talk about funerals……I know this can be something nobody wants to deal with, but this is part of life!!!. In Turkey as in Mexico there are some things which are partially related, but there are other things that are totally different.

In Turkey all relatives are expected to be there the same as in Mexico, Turkish people also pray the difference is that the “hodja” (person who prays) is the only one who does it, everyone else is just listening, however in Mexico one person is in charge of saying the Rosary and then everybody else prays or repeats the proclamation.

Talking about what is done after the burying-stage, in Mexico; people gather the next nine days and pray sometimes once or twice a day, however; in Turkey they gather 7 days after the burial and also pray. In this case everything is focused on the religion and people do what they consider is the best thing to do to save the soul of the dead person.

To conclude with……I guess there are many things that characterize each culture but there are some others which can be related to each other and we can take as part of our culture …..!!!


PUBLIC SERVICES ROOM


The real name of the room is: Literacy and Public Services, but as I’m going to focus my report on Public services, that’s my title.

This room had about 47 messages, the third part of them were about public services, and the differences between China, Turkey, Mexico ( Puebla) and USA. The messages were focused mostly on people education and the way they behave about garbage, but some talked about the way to deal with it as a public service.

The majority agreed that people lack education to know what to do with garbage when they are out. Some said that adults are the real problem, because children are being taught at school, and they really understand the importance of taking care of their world and environment, but the problem is that when they go out of school, they face a different truth, with their parents, relatives, neighbors, etc. And, as you know is very difficult to go against the reality, and convince others.

Somebody talked about how time changes people, because our ancestors were more concerned about having a clean city, by cleaning their own streets and keeping their houses well painted, and things like that, but now you can see how dirty the city is, and realize the indifference of people.

There were comments about the difficulty for the government to get the city cleaned,

for example, in China with that amount of people living in a small space. And the way people react to the government efforts to keep a clean city.

Some people said that when they are not in their own city, they simply don’t care about throwing garbage out of their cars or in the streets, just because they don´t get a ticket.

And in the other hand some do the contrary thing: if you go to a place where that attitude is prohibited, you don´t do it, but when you come back, you start doing it again.

The conclusion of all comments were that the most important thing to do is to educate not only with words, but with an example of life. And value what we have in the moment we have it. The earth is ours.

 

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Appendix C – Course Syllabus Mexico

INTERCULTURAL COMMUNICATION

Course Description--

This course is designed to help the language teacher understand intercultural communication (IC). This is important because of the needs of the students. In today's world, people have the opportunity to participate in the "global community." Values, traditions, religions, politics, social taboos exist. These cultural variables need to be recognized as existing and different rather than "good" or "bad." An understanding of IC will help the teacher to transmit this awareness to their students.

In this course, we will be communicating with a variety of people from different cultures with the intention of raising awareness, understanding, and tolerance of different peoples and cultures.

Course Aims--

Course Requirements

Course Evaluation

Course Schedule

 

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Appendix D – Course Syllabus Turkey

FLED 312

Bayyurt

Sociolinguistics and Education

Course objective

This course studies language in its sociocultural context, investigating how social and cultural factors influence language, language use, and language learning and teaching. The main goal is to familiarize students with the main issues of sociolinguistics and show their application in language teaching and education. The last weeks of the course deal with the practical aspects of using sociolinguistic data/information to evaluate and prepare materials and activities for raising learners’ awareness of cross-cultural differences.

Course materials

Textbooks:

Holmes, Janet (2001)(second edition). An Introduction to Sociolinguisitics. Essex: Pearson

Education Limited.

Mesthrie, R. et al. (2000). Introducing Sociolinguistics. Philadelphia: John Benjamins.

Wardhaugh, R. (1992). An Introduction to Sociolinguistics. Oxford: Basil Blackwell Publishers.


and selected readings from various sources.

References


(The titles given below are all good references for background reading, especially for the research projects. Most of them are available in the library.)

Course outline

Week 1: (Feb. 24-28) Introduction to sociolinguistics: Basic issues, concepts and approaches.

Holmes, Chp. 1

Mesthrie, R. et al., Chp. 1

Wardhaugh, Chp. 1

Week 2: (March 3-7) Language, culture, and thought

Holmes, Chp. 13

Wardhaugh, Chp. 9, "Language and culture"

Kramsch, Chp. 1, "The Relationship of Language and Culture", pp. 3-14.

Week 3: (March 10-14) Varieties of language and their sociolinguistic implications

Holmes, Chp. 6

Mesthrie, R. et al., Chp.s 2 & 3

Wardhaugh, Chp. 2 "Languages, dialects and varieties"

Weeks 4 & 5: (March 17-21 and March 24-28) Language variation and linguistic variables, age, gender, social factors governing their use.

Holmes, Chp.s 7 & 9

Mesthrie, R. et al., Chp. 4

Language in social interaction. Speech acts and speaking functions.

Cohen, Chp. 12, "Speech Acts" (McKay and Hornberger, 1996), pp. 383-420.

Mesthrie, R. et al., Chp. 6

Holmes, Chp. 11

Wardhaugh, Chp. 12 "Acting and conversing"

Gender and language use.

Holmes, Chp. 12

Mesthrie, Chp. 7

Wardhaugh, Chp. 13

Week 6: (March 31-April 4) Communicative competence: development and implications for language teaching. Linguistic competence and performance; rules of speaking.

Savignon, Chp. 1, "Definitions of Communicative Competence" and

"Toward a Classroom Model of Communicative Competence", pp. 1-9, 35-48.

Saville-Troike, Chp. 11, "The Ethnography of Communication" (McKay and Hornberger, 1996), pp. 351-382.

Wardhaugh, Chp. 10

Weeks 7 & 8: (April, 7-11 and April 14-18) Language contact and its outcomes: bilingualism, multilingualism, diglossia, code-switching, language maintenance and loss; interference and convergence between languages.

Holmes, Chp.s 2, 3 & 10

Mesthrie, Chp.s 5, 8 & 9

Wardhaugh, Chp. 4 "Choosing a code"

Critical sociolinguistics, language planning and policy

Holmes, Chp. 5

Mesthrie, Chp.s 10 & 12

Wardhaugh, Ch. 14 "Language and disadvantage"

Week 9: (April, 21-25) Language spread: the worldwide spread of English and its implications for foreign/second language teaching.

Kachru, B. Braj. (ed.) (1992) The Other Tongue: English across cultures, University of

Illinois Press. Chapters by J.A. Fishman “Sociology of English as an additional

Language”, and P. Strevens “English as an International Language” pp. 19-47

Kachru, B.B. and Nelson, C.L., Chp.1, “World Englishes”, (Burns and Coffin, 2001)

Crystal, D., Chp. 4, “The Future of Englishes”, (Burns and Coffin, 2001)

Wardhaugh, Language in Competition: Language Dominance

Spring Break (April 28-May 2)

Weeks 10&11: (May, 5-9 & May 12-16)

Sociolinguistics and education:

Bentahila, A. & E. Davies (1989) Culture and language use: A problem for foreign language teaching, IRAL, Vol. XXVII/2, pp. 99-111.

Blatchford, Chp. 13, “Newspapers: vehicles for teaching ESOL with a cultural focus”

(Valdes, 1986), pp. 130-136.

Brooks, Chp. 12, “Culture in the classroom” (Valdes, 1986), pp. 123-128.

Cox, Chp. 50, “Teaching Standard English”, (Burke et al., 2000), pp. 478-487.

Holmes, Chp.s 14 & 15

Jin, L. & Cortazzi, M., Chp. 5, “The Culture the Learner Brings: A Bridge or a Barrier?” (Byram & Fleming, 1998), pp. 98-118.

Kramsch, Chp. 1, “The Privilege of the Intercultural Speaker” (Byram & Fleming, 1998),

pp. 16-31.

Mesthrie, Chp. 11, “Sociolinguistics and Education”

Morain, Chp. 6, “Kinesics and cross-cultural understanding” (Valdes, 1986), pp. 64-76.

Weeks 12-13: (May, 19-23 & May 26-30) Presentation of research projects & Course review

Course requirements:

1. Students are required to do all the assigned readings and be able to discuss them in class.

2. Attendance is compulsory.

3. Presentations 10%

Assignments 15%

Midterm I 25% (4 April)

Midterm II 25% (15 May)

Final project 25% (27 May)

Total 100%

 

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